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I believe, there will be no word about my personal life here, affecting anybody there;

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Любовь стала настолько общим местом – никто и не задумывается, о чем речь, «я люблю» мы скажем о чём угодно, но это даёт ПРАВА: ваш предмет – ваша собственность… и наоборот, ОБЯЗАННОСТИ – вы обязаны всем вашему предмету, раз то ли вы его любите, то ли он вас любит…

Ахинея – полная.

В этой связи я утверждаю: любви – нет!

– нет никакого ОБЩЕГО явления, одинаково переживаемого всеми! – у всех это – по-своему! – поэтому, назвать что-то любовью – это ваше абсолютно ЛИЧНОЕ, никому более не понятное и никого не касающееся; - с другой стороны, коль скоро это – ЧЬЁ-ТО ЛИЧНОЕ – невозможно его постичь и не надо пытаться!

Как иллюстрацию здесь можно привести попытку лезть с фонариком в потёмки чужой души – а не выйдет!

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Meanwhile I’d like to define some things here in order I could use them in my life, I could say it to my friends as abt smth I could see, and touch, and taste – not abt a work of imagination only;

I’d like to talk about – say it – attraction;

The world around shows – we, humans, are attracted by loads of things: by people of opposite gender, of the same gender, by delicacy, by comfort, by power, etc. It starts suddenly, on event, when we see / feel smbdy / smth and our internal world responds some special way – unexpected joy etc. & attraction;

Should we start yelling immediately: IT’S LOVE ! - I LOVE HER / HIM ! - I LOVE YOU ! - ?

probably - not;

wadayasay?

<to be continued>
 
 
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Цитата(koza @ Jul 1 2008, 01:10 AM) *
Oscar Benton
Not The Same Dreams Anymore

Our honeymoon is over
And the best days of our love
Are dead and gone
Instead of growing closer
This time goes on and on
We're getting miles apart
Though you're beside me as before
And when we kiss goodnight I find...

...That since we're sharing the same bed
We're not sharing the same dreams
Anymore
That since we're sharing the same bed
We're not sharing the same dreams
Anymore

We're using the same bathroom
Where your personal things
Are lying close to mine
And I know that our clothes
Are drying on the same line
When friends come to call
They read our names on the door
If they could read our minds, they'd find...

...That since we're sharing the same bed
We're not sharing the same dreams
Anymore
That since we're sharing the same bed
We're not sharing the same dream(s)
Anymore

(We're) talking about problems
But we keep our feelings deep inside
We never say a tender word
We couldn't even if we tried
It's hard to realize you're the girl
I've been waiting for
'Cause when we kiss goodnight I find...

...That since we're sharing the same bed
We're not sharing the same dreams
Anymore
That since we're sharing the same bed
We're not sharing the same dreams
Anymore


Some reflections on the matter of the lyrics above, if you please:

- as agreed – we do not call anything LOVE, as everybody understands IT different way..

- the attraction of the most deep & popular nature pulls human males & females to become one – and to create one more.. so the feelings before marriage (or simply sharing bed) have natural extension in pregnancy, childbirth, parenting etc – if there was no mistaking of dreams, everything goes right, wishes grow up & appear others – natural progress..

- the couple is expected to be ready to keep the most important in their relations & forgive & forget some other things..

- life is various.. dreams of two might do not come true, particularly.. one more - common dream – does not appear..

- the song shows the man’s position, sorrow.. giving him material for nipping soul performance.. what’s position, feelings of his spouse? – who knows?. – any idea?.

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- & so boring - "the same dreams.." - what about new ones?
 
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Цитата(Rem61 @ Jul 11 2008, 04:31 PM) *
"the same dreams.." - what about new ones?


As you considered trully - "no problem - no man",
But what's the reason their suffer than,

What making them so sad, with turning eyes inside
The soul, inspite the shining world - inspite.

'No love-no broken hearts" - so wrong possession -
Without love with burning heart -worst life tradition.

The question might be viewing with another sight -
No MEN- that's problem of their lonely days & nights


 
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Цитата(koza @ Jul 12 2008, 12:09 AM) *
As you considered trully - "no problem - no man",
But what's the reason their suffer than,

What making them so sad, with turning eyes inside
The soul, inspite the shining world - inspite.

'No love-no broken hearts" - so wrong possession -
Without love with burning heart -worst life tradition.

The question might be viewing with another sight -
No MEN- that's problem of their lonely days & nights


everybody misunderstands one another.. I gonna do it from my side again smile.gif

firstly – when reading & when listening to Oscar Benton it gave different impressions – I should get one step back here & say “the same dreams” of Benton are not old dreams, but common ones.. it cannot be named boring, of course..

then – “no man – no problem” by Iosif Jugashvili had a very black meaning, but quite understandable as “no reason – no consequences”..

next – “No love-no broken hearts" – means the love as a top secret between two.. quite private a possession of two.. it doesn’t exist for the world around.. it’s in-comprehensible for the world around.. & the two dive as deep as possible to say YES.. or probably, to say NO – if there is nothing to call love in their mutual attraction…

further – I can’t…

<to be continued>
 
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Цитата(Rem61 @ Jul 14 2008, 05:36 PM) *
everybody misunderstands one another..
<to be continued>


With, without the continuation of discussion
They might have been loosing comprehension

Meanings of their thoughts seems easy of access
Meanings of their words seems clearly for confess

Music, Shakespeare, poems, humor,love et cetera
Languages of soul, expression manners, or jуst "fronterA"

Only touch and look could answer their pursuit
As material evidence of their mental perfect suit

Сообщение отредактировал koza - Jul 14 2008, 08:46 PM
 
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Цитата(koza @ Jul 14 2008, 10:41 PM) *
With, without the continuation of discussion
They might have been loosing comprehension

Meanings of their thoughts seems easy of access
Meanings of their words seems clearly for confess

Music, Shakespeare, poems, humor,love et cetera
Languages of soul, expression manners, or jуst "fronterA"

Only touch and look could answer their pursuit
As material evidence of their mental perfect suit


Touch by touch, view by view..
Further - saying ‘I love you’..

<private area>

hurt by hurt, cry by cry..
isn’t it time to say ‘good buy’?

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weather, weather, gift me sun
I would like to write of fun

Clouds, clouds, got me down
Everything is black & brown..
 

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